There has been a couple times where I will be looking down a sightline, and a player will spawn right in where I am looking. I kill them because TARGET!, but will say sorry in the chat after and move somewhere else. Then there are times on maps like Bog or Wet Works where you literally can't look anywhere that is not a spawn point that I have been warned on. I'll sit places that MANY people have before, looking at the same places. About a week ago, there was a player on Bog literally spamming his RPD at the WALL for the spawn point, I pointed it out, and it was dismissed saying the map was a big spawn anyway. However, I sit on the barrel that overlooks the shipping container on Spetz spawn towards Marine spawn, shoot people as they run OUT of the spawn, not the spawn itself, and I get a warning. Same thing with Wet Works. Plenty of times people will be running through the spawns themselves, but I get a warning for doing the same thing. There should be clear lines between spawn killing, spawn camping, and spawn lockdown. On maps like Bog and Wet Works, lets be honest, it's going to happen. Unless everyone plays looking sideways, you're going to be looking at a spawn point. But for maps like Backlot, the garage spawn, it gets a little tricky. That spawn SUCKS because you get killed as soon as you run out of the squared off area. Is that spawn camping, or just lockdown? Are the players doing everything they can to get out of the spawn? Is sitting in the back with an LMG helping your team push out of the spawn? Are they using the lean feature to peak corners to kill the players outside the spawn? If one players is keeping an entire team locked down, then that entire team is doing something wrong. ANYway! The main thing I would like to distinguish is the difference between spawn killing, spawn camping, and spawn lockdown. Spawn killing is something that I like to define as one person (or multiple people) running in the spawn of another team, in the thick of it, killing whatever they see. It's hard to keep up for long because players can spawn all around you. Spawn camping would be a single person (or multiple people again) looking at the exact spawn of the other team. Spots like on Backlot, from the weird metal stacks by garage spawn to under the stairway by the gas station. You can see people spawn there. Just places that you can SEE the people spawn. That's pretty scummy and I try to avoid it. BUT then there is spawn lockdown where you are looking OUTSIDE the actual spawn points to where people would usually run face first out into the open. That's fine. That's on the players running out like chickens with their heads cut off. I've done that plenty of times myself. I do not think that this kind of spawn killing should be punishable. Just the actual spawn camping. I think that things need to be clearly defined so everyone can avoid confusion, finger pointing, and frustration.
TL;DR: Spawn camping - BAD. Spawn killing - OK. Spawn lockdown - OK. Ban on theWhip - Consider Lifting. This post - Just My Opinion.Statistics: Posted by Jump or Die — May 28th, 2017, 8:53 am
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